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X-Men observation

From comparison to the folks around her in X1, I estimate Sumela Kay to have been about 5'4" at the time. According to IMDb, Katie Stuart is 5'3" and Ellen Page is 5' even.

So apparently Kitty is shrinking. Maybe she's leaving too many molecules behind when she phases. ;-D

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wiliqueen
Jun. 1st, 2006 08:06 pm (UTC)
The old tv show did the W/S for their screwed up timeline deal, and it's shown up in Ultimate.

I'd forgotten about that! And have never read any of the Ultimates stuff.

I don't have anything particularly against the match in the movieverse. It's just not a direction I'd ever particularly thought.

I liked the whole "maybe it's time we move on" thing.

Indeed.

I've always found her patently annoying, and every time I hear her mutant name, I think "Always winter and never christmas!"

*snerk* Thankfully, I think they probably decided (quite rightly) that they have enough telepaths as it is.

Emma gets on my nerves, but she can be amusing. They probably decided -- quite rightly -- that they have enough telepaths already. Although having her in the movies might have exorcised the mental image of an unfortunately-wigged-and-clothed Finola Hughes from that dreadful GenX TV-movie...
leeflower
Jun. 1st, 2006 09:16 pm (UTC)
She can be kinda amusing, but I've just got it in for her. It's not so much a logical thing as just a visceral "Go away you stupid Mary Sue" hate.

And now Joss Whedon has her sleeping with my boyscout... it's very upsetting (She's seriously the only reason I don't follow Astonishing... I really can't stand her. I wish I could explain it). I guess I'm just very defensive of the Scott. He gets so much hate from the fanboys, but really-- someone's gotta be the responsible one.
leeflower
Jun. 1st, 2006 09:17 pm (UTC)
...and it's totally spelled with one t, isn't it? because at last check, he was from Alaska. I lose.
wiliqueen
Jun. 1st, 2006 10:08 pm (UTC)
???? He's always been Scott with two Ts as far as I know. Not sure where Alaska would factor into that, but I don't know if anyone in his family is really from there anyway. His grandparents run a small airline there, but I don't know if it's ever been said whether they've always lived there. In any event, as AF brats, I just assumed "home" for him and Alex before the crash was whatever base they lived on at a given time.

All of the above, of course, assumes they haven't completely gutted his history, which is always possible, Marvel being Marvel. But I doubt they would have changed the spelling.
leeflower
Jun. 2nd, 2006 02:57 am (UTC)
no I meant because he wasn't scottish, and therefore he wasn't a scott :). It's possible that I lose twice. I really fail at spelling.

I totally get what you mean about Wolverine. I mean, I like the guy, but it's "X-Men," not "Wolverine and friends." He's a good character, but he's not the most fascinating person on the planet. And he's a good character because he *isn't* perfect. You start sticking people in there who don't have any serious impediments to their character, it messes everything up.

I mean really-- Xavier is handicapped and occasionally too 'father knows best'ish; Scott's colorblind and occasionally gets his head stuck up his ass; Storm's claustrophobic and occasionaly underestimates her importance/strength; Jean has a tendency to go crazy; Wolverine's a bit irresponsible and can be easily incapacitated by their main villian; Nightcrawler underestimates his own strength and can be kind of a scaredy-cat; Beast is socially awkward because of his appearance; Iceman's unreliable... We love them all *because* they're flawed.

(I think that's my problem with Emma. Her flaw is what, exactly? That she's angsty about being shuned by the rich social elite that hasn't really shuned her? I mean she's got that nice snark factor going, but she's like Mara Jade-- good as a villian or a semi-villian; bad as the hero's girlfriend).
wiliqueen
Jun. 2nd, 2006 01:21 pm (UTC)
no I meant because he wasn't scottish, and therefore he wasn't a scott :). It's possible that I lose twice.

Ah! Got it. And you don't lose -- just means you were right the first time! -- but yeah, a Scottish person is a Scot. An American guy with the name is a Scott. :-)

:: dies laughing at the rundown of X-Men character flaws :: Yup, that pretty much covers it.

I think that's my problem with Emma. Her flaw is what, exactly?

Well, having checked out not long after Inferno, I would consider her flaw to be "power-hungry psychobitch." But I know from friends who are still reading (not a few of whom started after I quit, which really leads to some interesting perspective comparisons!) that's really not so much the case anymore.

she's like Mara Jade-- good as a villian or a semi-villian; bad as the hero's girlfriend).

*chuckle* Not a comparison I would have thought of, but yeah. Although I still liked Mara as the hero's girlfriend; it was as his wife that they ruined her, mostly through a near-total snarkectomy. The snark was what Luke needed (errr... from another Jedi. Who wasn't related to him. Uh, he just needed more snark than he was getting from Leia and Han. Or something.)

Scott needs snark for much the same reason, but he gets plenty from, oh, say, Logan. I just can't see him sleeping with it, as Emma *shudder* or anyone else.
leeflower
Jun. 2nd, 2006 02:04 pm (UTC)
yeah, I'll give you Jade as Luke's girlfriend... but what the heck happened to her when they got married? Their poor child-- no wonder he's becoming a space pirate.

Luke's also a lot more chill than Scott, so he can handle that sort of sarcasm (he'd better, after all this time with Han and Leia). Scott? nuh-uh. Scott needs someone around to tell him what a good job he's doing. You know, like Jean.
wiliqueen
Jun. 2nd, 2006 02:22 pm (UTC)
Well, I gave up on the NJO before Ben was even conceived, largely in disgust over what they had done with Mara. So I can't speak to what's becoming of him, but I'm just as glad not to know. :-/

And yeah, Scott won't believe he's doing a good job without someone telling him. Much the same was true of Luke, at least for quite a while, but he had no shortage of cheerleaders. Plus, Mara actually was a cheerleader in her way, just a snarky one. "The decision you're angsting about was perfectly fine, Skywalker. How about paying some attention to this one that actually might become a problem?"
wiliqueen
Jun. 1st, 2006 10:04 pm (UTC)
And now Joss Whedon has her sleeping with my boyscout...

Ack. I had managed to block out that I heard that. :-( I know her place in things has changed DRASTICALLY since I gave up on comics in general...gosh, over a decade ago now. But still, that's just...ack.

He gets so much hate from the fanboys, but really-- someone's gotta be the responsible one.

Word. He hasn't always been perfect at it, but he does his best.

Then again, I'm assuming these are the same fanboys whose yardstick of character perfection is Wolvie. Which, y'know, 'nuff said. :-/ Not that I don't love the runt, but you'd at least think they'd appreciate his having a foil...

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