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[Prompted by the current wider debate re: content warning on vids, but thought about (without conclusions) much earlier. I was going to post this just to my "vidbabble" filter, but figured there might be helpful thoughts from outside that small pool. Or you might not know what the heck I'm talking about or care in the least, which is also fine. Skim on by; I'll try to give you something more relevant/interesting tomorrow. :-) ]

[Edit: If you're here from my comment to were_duck's very helpful post collating VVC content warning links, please be patient, as this particular post is more thinking "out loud" than a proper warning itself. Until I come up with one, if you would like further clarification on the vid's content, please don't hesitate to ask, and I'll be more than happy to provide it. Please feel free to either comment or email me privately: valerie at wiliqueen dot com.]

When I first uploaded "Cut" to YouTube, I made note that it has spoilers through 1x05, because I knew a lot of non-UK fans were/are still discovering Being Human. I thought briefly about some form of content mention, but eventually decided (a) all content is from the show, which it's reasonable to assume pretty much anyone watching the vid online has seen; and (b) if they haven't, the thumbnail still with blood all over Lauren's face is a pretty good clue. (Yes, I chose it for that reason, as well as for its happening to be the most iconic still of the three available.) For online, for those reasons, I still think that's probably sufficient, though I still have second thoughts on occasion when I step back to watch the vid through and think, "Wow, that's a lot of blood."

When I submitted it for VividCon's "Nearly New" vidshow, where (a) not everyone in the room will have seen the show, and (b) all they get in advance is the summary in the program, I wondered if I should add something about blood and/or violence (and particularly violence in the context of otherwise consensual sex) but ended up leaving the summary the same as what I put on YouTube, mostly because I couldn't think how to phrase it helpfully or concisely. (That's not even getting into what the heck you say when both parties are vampires, and sex and violence are one big [consensual, but still] tangle, which is the heart of the central section of the vid.)

I don't know if it's too late to email the concom and say "Hey, could you please add this to my summary?" I still don't know what to say if I were to do so. And while the discussion is focussing on premiering vids only, BH is a smaller fandom and I'm thus considering it to be effectively premiering as far as many if not most VVC attendees are concerned.

As a tradeoff for that, I recognize that I'm risking being pulled into the larger debate, so I might as well state clearly that, for myself as a vidder, I would vastly prefer to give people the tools to avoid being hurt, if I am able to do so. In this particular case, Lauren's story is plenty disturbing whether or not you know something ahead of time about what it is. No signpost giving the opportunity to opt out is going to change that, nor do I believe that opportunity should be withheld or masked.

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brightknightie
Jul. 5th, 2010 05:04 pm (UTC)
You make a good point about what might need explanation inside versus outside a given fandom. Canon should rarely need a warning inside its own fandom, where we know the content and are coping with it through our creative efforts; on the outside, though, more than a few series as a whole need warnings for those unfamiliar with them.

I've never had to label something as severe as Lauren's canonical experience. But FWIW, I often use "vampire violence" as a fiction content label distinct from plain "violence" to cover the distinctively vampiric behaviors. ~shrug~
wiliqueen
Jul. 5th, 2010 06:01 pm (UTC)
That's a useful one. Will definitely keep it in mind. Thanks!

And you touch on part of my thing, that this is a new thing to grapple with for me in part because I'm dealing with a canon that pushes the envelope a bit more than basic-cable-tier US shows.

VVC, of course, has a history of far more envelope-pushing content than this, but that's part of why there's a debate going on at all.
sabaceanbabe
Jul. 5th, 2010 05:35 pm (UTC)
I emailed dualbunny last night regarding the vid I submitted for Premieres to see if anything could be added to the program regarding possible triggers for migraines or epilepsy (my vid has two sections with lots of really fast-moving images and flashes) and she said she'd forward the info on to par_avion to see if they could do anything about. (Turns out dualbunny is the contact for registering and I'm thinking par_avion is involved in the programming.) I also saw via mresundance that someone over on Dreamwidth is linking people's posts regarding warnings on their Vividcon vids just in case the concom can't get something workable in place in time for the con this year.

ETA: Here is the post linking to Vividcon warning posts.

Edited at 2010-07-05 05:36 pm (UTC)
wiliqueen
Jul. 5th, 2010 06:02 pm (UTC)
Excellent, thank you!! I still need to work out what to say, but at least now I know where to point people to it from.

And y'know, maybe I'll just point it here, and provide clarification as needed.

Edited at 2010-07-05 06:04 pm (UTC)
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