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Ripples in the Amy Pond

:: pauses for well-deserved groans and rotten fruit ::

There's a thought I've been mulling over since "The Beast Below," and I've been hesitating to post about it because (a) I wasn't quite sure how to word it, and (b) I wasn't quite sure how to mark it for spoilers. But it just came up in a comment thread on darkmagess' post, and I need to get it out of my head and into the wild.

Right out of the gate, Amy seems (apart from that pesky fleeing-on-the-eve-of-her-wedding thing, which has thus far not raised even a sliver of its head as an issue) to be the perfect companion. Like, she couldn't be more so if the Doctor had ordered her from a catalog.

Or if someone had made her for him. Like Faction Paradox did with Sam.

There's a crack in time (and I'm more and more thinking it's the same one) following her around.

There's something hinky about her place in time and space, because she knows absolutely nothing about that time the Daleks stole the entire frelling Earth.

And, as darkmagess pointed out in her post:

Amy who has apparently known the Doctor for like a week seems to be able to read all his moods and faces. Why so? Aren't they just getting to know one another? Shouldn't he be a mystery? Shouldn't she still be trying to sift out the difference between actual man and the mythology she made up during her childhood?

I don't expect them go so far as to bring a full-blown Faction Paradox-like conspiracy into the TV series, because I don't think they're that insane. I do, however, think that we're being given some big flashy clues that Amy has not had the same life she would have had if there were not a crack in time following her about. And that maybe there is an intelligence behind how her timeline has been altered, and that it's directed at the Doctor.

I kind of wish I didn't have the Sam/Faction Paradox plot arc in the back of my head for this to remind me of, so I could read the clues from a clean slate. But since the slate isn't clean, I must ponder.

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kirbyfest
Apr. 26th, 2010 12:13 am (UTC)
I'm interested in finding out (and somehow, I suspect we might) if Amy's the only one in her home town who doesn't remember the Daleks...
wiliqueen
Apr. 26th, 2010 01:46 am (UTC)
Yeah, there's definitely something hinky about the town.
lyssie
Apr. 26th, 2010 12:20 am (UTC)
Um. My memories aren't that great, but Rose, Martha and Donna were pretty much just as good at Getting the Doctor. so I'm seeing anything different here.

eta: also, Eleven isn't exactly hard to read, to be honest. He's like an open book of "MY EMOTIONS ARE ALL ON MY FACE"-ness

Edited at 2010-04-26 12:21 am (UTC)
wiliqueen
Apr. 26th, 2010 01:53 am (UTC)
I dunno. I guess it feels to me like she has more of an absolute certainty about how he'll react to any given stimulus than she should have at this point. With the previous companions, we saw some process of figuring him out, and there were always moments of "Wait, what? Where is your brain going now?" even when they had him mostly pegged. (Which they certainly did much faster than the average person -- that's a big part of what makes a companion.)

Amy has just been "Well, yeah, of COURSE that's how he is and what he would do" about everything, in a way that feels to me like she isn't just rolling with it but expects it. I can't pin down why, exactly, but I just have a different gut reaction to it.

He's like an open book of "MY EMOTIONS ARE ALL ON MY FACE"-ness

There is that. But it's the more arcane twists of his logic too.

*kermitface* I dunno. It's very gut-level, and it's not like I'll be heartbroken and betrayed if I'm totally wrong. It just feels odd.
lyssie
Apr. 26th, 2010 11:05 pm (UTC)
Amy spent TWELVE YEARS fantasizing about her adventures with the Raggedy Doctor, an alien so lonely that he befriended a frightened seven-year-old and promised to take her with him.

And Amy's the last of HER kind, too, in a way. Her parents are gone, she's spent fourteen years in a British village, but she's still got her Scottish accent.

You think maybe, just maybe, some of that might give her an insight into a terrifyingly lonely alien who is all alone in the universe?

Aside from which, it's not like Eleven is exactly quiet about his emotions and loneliness and fixation on CHILDREN.

To be honest, all of this "made for him" stuff sounds ridiculously dismissive and a way of calling her a Mary Sue without coming out and saying so. And, yes, I'd say the same if people were talking about Rose, Donna or Martha.
wiliqueen
Apr. 26th, 2010 11:18 pm (UTC)
and promised to take her with him.

That's the thing, though - he didn't say that. He just said he'd be back. And she ran upstairs and packed. Unless I completely missed it, which is possible.

To be honest, all of this "made for him" stuff sounds ridiculously dismissive and a way of calling her a Mary Sue

Then apparently I wasn't clear. (a) I have no patience with anyone calling any canon character (or most characters, come to that) a Mary Sue, (b) I have no intention of dismissing her, and (c) I happen to ADORE her.

I don't think there's a single thing about how cool she is that isn't properly hers. I just think something feels hinky about how she's repeatedly reacted as if she's actually known him all that time -- not just spun fantasies out of their obvious kindred-spirit-ness -- and it's made me wonder if she's been manipulated somehow.

Which, if it were to be the case, would be motivated BECAUSE she's that cool in and of herself. Because if someone wanted to manipulate someone's timestream to place her in the Doctor's path, it would make a helluva lot more sense for her to be someone that cool.

Amy ROCKS, full stop. However, I am suspicious of the writing team. Nothing else is implied. Infer as you see fit. I'm sure as hell not trying to sell anyone on it, just thinking "out loud" and trying to figure out a niggling in the back of my head. I'd love to have it be satisfied by the things you're saying. It's not.

Edited at 2010-04-26 11:23 pm (UTC)
lyssie
Apr. 27th, 2010 11:22 pm (UTC)
Sigh. I had a response typed and then I went to get my roommate, came back and didn't remember I hadn't replied. This morning, firefox died. *hands in the air*

I have no idea what I was going to say anymore. Sorry.
wiliqueen
Apr. 27th, 2010 11:41 pm (UTC)
Technology. Meh. If we use something for a spare brain, it should actually keep stuff, dammit!
darkmagess
Apr. 26th, 2010 07:30 am (UTC)
I think it was something at the end of Beast Below that made me think she had advanced Doctor wisdom. When she was very accurately describing the state of the Star Whale as the last of his kind, moved by the cries of children, and Hey Doctor I'm Totally Talking To You Here. That's, I dunno, a depth of understanding that should take a little bit, isn't it? We as the audience are obviously there with that information. We've gone on that journey, but she hasn't.
thanatos_kalos
Apr. 26th, 2010 12:21 am (UTC)
There was supposed to be a story written for...s1, maybe? where it was revealed that Rose had been made as the perfect Companion. (no, I can't remember where I'm getting this data, but it's what 'Boom Town' replaced, so...some interview with RTD maybe?). Anyhow, they could be playing with that idea again. It's an interesting concept, certainly.
wiliqueen
Apr. 26th, 2010 01:56 am (UTC)
Hrm. And of course so many of the current team wrote for the various incarnations of the novels, and have gone so far as to directly rework them (i.e. "Human Nature," for which Paul even retained the same title). I didn't know they had considered that for Rose, but it does seem likely that they're pulling it from the Sam arc.

I would actually quite like to see that without the incredibly byzantine complications of Faction Paradox, which took on a life of its own to the point where IMHO it derailed the novels into something that was very interesting but ceased to be Doctor Who.

Edited at 2010-04-26 01:57 am (UTC)
stoplookingup
Apr. 26th, 2010 07:28 pm (UTC)
I don't have any clue about the Sam/Faction Paradox, but I've been saying all along that Amy has the feel of Doctor-bait - like she's been planted to attract his attention. So it's not just you.
wiliqueen
Apr. 26th, 2010 08:41 pm (UTC)
Oh, good. That also makes me feel less like I shouldn't be picking up on this if I didn't know the novels.
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