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Dollhouse vid rec

I've been jotting down bits and pieces of the Large Post of Thinkyness, but have decided I want to catch up on the two eps I missed first. Especially since I gather one of them involves background for Sierra-that-was that is sure to figure into some of the thinky.

In the meantime, I got into a brief comment chat with meganbmoore, which led me to read some of her terrific thinky posts, which led to this gobsmackingly brilliant vid by giandujakiss.

Nota bene: As she says in her post, it's potentially triggery and/or offensive. It's also, as meganbmoore noted in her rec post, honest.

I'm not sure how giandujakiss' head didn't actually literally explode when it struck her to vid Dollhouse to "It Depends On What You Pay" from the original cast recording of The Fantasticks. A song, as probably more than a few people on my flist know, that has been cut more often than not over the soon-to-be-fifty-year life of the musical. The vid is immensely cleverly crafted, disturbing as all get-out, and right on the money.

This is the show I'm watching. The "why"... That I'll save for another day.

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evillittletwit
May. 22nd, 2009 03:15 am (UTC)
I actually wrote a paper on this song! I hadn't thought about its connection with Dollhouse, but it actually works brilliantly. Wow.

It's so difficult to explain why I love this show to people who already have the rape barrier barring them from ever watching it. I recognize why it squicks people out, and it would usually squick me out, too, were it not for the character work done.
wiliqueen
May. 22nd, 2009 12:24 pm (UTC)
I'm worrying less about explaining the "why" at this point. I actually like grappling with really problematic material, and most of my friends know that.

Luckily, I've found a few other people watching the show from a similar perspective, so I can happily avoid aspects of the fandom-at-large, e.g. the inevitable woobification of Topher. *shudder*
allmightybecca
May. 22nd, 2009 11:11 pm (UTC)
Oh Wow! That was brilliant. Thanks for the link. The song is so perfect that I have to stop and think about everything it says about the show. Not that I didn't realize it but that vid really places it front and center.
wiliqueen
May. 22nd, 2009 11:59 pm (UTC)
That was definitely her intent, from what she's said.

Not that I didn't realize it

I'm not surprised by how many people don't realize it, unfortunately. But I am surprised by how many who do, feel that it's not clear enough. It seems so straightforward to me.
allmightybecca
May. 23rd, 2009 01:19 am (UTC)
I can understand people wanting any kind of crime to be emphasied and maybe even over emphasised. I also think it becomes a different story when that happens and in a weird way I think Dollhouse is more about solving a crime than the crime itself. Although even that doesn't sound totally right but i can't seem to articulate what I mean (Fridays after a full work week may not be the best time for me to think).
leeflower
May. 24th, 2009 12:24 pm (UTC)
Couldn't get the sound to work.

On either version, in three different players, on a machine with every codec known to man (and a few that aren't).

Looks like a well-cut vid, but I can't really comment past that.
wiliqueen
May. 24th, 2009 06:56 pm (UTC)
Weird. She has it on YouTube too. Maybe you'll have better luck?
leeflower
May. 24th, 2009 08:16 pm (UTC)
I suspect it is Linux and not her vid that is misbehaving, because otherwise, other people would be having trouble too. I got it to work on YouTube and thought it was well-done.

Have you seen Omega yet? Something disturbing in there re: this I want to talk about.
wiliqueen
May. 24th, 2009 08:20 pm (UTC)
Yes, and I finally caught up on the two I missed ("Grey Hour" and "Needs") this morning. (So the big thinky post will probably materialize in the next day or so.)

What's on your mind? All curious now!
leeflower
May. 24th, 2009 08:41 pm (UTC)
Real!November's reaction when they let her go. She's all peppy and "it feels like I just got here! Thank you!" And NOT. CREEPED OUT. AT ALL.

I can understand that they wanted to give her a happy ending. But given what we've seen of other Dollhouse intakes--chased down, or blackmailed, or turned in by their harasser so that he can rape them at will-- I find it a little hard to believe that November went in eyes open and volunteered. Even if she did, I find it hard to believe that she would adjust that easily to what happened.

So either there was a writer fail there about the creepiness of the show's premise, or they didn't put her back without making a "Dollhouse is Warm and Fussy" edit or two.
wiliqueen
May. 24th, 2009 10:19 pm (UTC)
I have quite a lot of theories about Madeline, which are currently in flux having seen "Needs." It's collding in my head with the brief glimpse of multiple identities we got when Ballard ran her prints. She didn't get fingerprinted all those times on engagements -- they would never be so careless -- so I've been operating on the theory that she's a con artist. (Can you imagine what an asset that sweet face would be?)

With her demeanor in "Needs" (which, according to Topher, should be her actual personality minus personal memories, except clearly he blew it on that last part with her in particular), I started second-guessing myself on that even before the revelation about Katie. But I can't ignore the search results complete with mugshots. So now I'm thinking they can both be true -- it's just a matter of which came first. Was she a very young mother who went off the rails at the loss of her child? Or a con artist (spy? assassin?) who tried to turn over a new leaf when she had a child, perhaps even lost her to violence following her from her old life?

I'm tangenting... Point is, I think she "volunteered" under severe emotional strain, and her perspective at this point is that they held up their end of the bargain, so there's no reason not to be cordial to DeWitt.

\Who, leave us not forget, just paid her an unspecified truckload of money. If she was a grifter, that's going to carry a lot of weight.

I also pretty much assume we haven't seen the last of her (if nothing else, Miracle is gleeing too much on Facebook and Twitter for someone who doesn't have a job), and I don't discount the possibility that, as you suggest, she wasn't put back together again exactly as she was. In fact, I've been waiting to find out they never do that at all.

I guess we'll find out. I'm choosing at this point to think it's not fail, but that there's a character reason for it. I could well end up disappointed, but I'll cross that bridge while they burn it out from under me. *wry g*
leeflower
May. 24th, 2009 10:53 pm (UTC)
See, I had assumed they had multiple hits for her because the Dollhouse always covers their tracks with the personalities it builds, entering them into the system so that all of them could pass at least a cursory background check. That way, things don't get complicated if one of them gets a parking ticket or something.

Which is why they vanished--because they were ghost hits set to expire from the system anyway.

I hope we get to see more of her. I also hope that if we do, she and Ballard don't end up back together again like it's no thing--I want to see a different person with a different kind of relationship to him.
wiliqueen
May. 24th, 2009 11:04 pm (UTC)
Hmmm. I had and discarded that thought because it didn't jibe with the extremely ad hoc way Sierra infiltrated the NSA. But then that was a short-notice emergency, so. That's probably really what it is.

*sigh* I think I'm glad I missed "Needs" until now -- it let me build that grifter!Madeline in my head. And I was kinda in love with the idea of Ballard encountering her again and discovering she really wasn't very nice, and being unable to not wish for sweet needy Mellie back. But I tend to gravitate to the most twisted character possibilities *wry g*
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