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People unclear on the concept

Okay, so on Fandom Wank (yes, I still skim it occasionally, despite its being primarily a morass of petty pointlessness), there's a post about some wankfest erupting from a post by some guy who was all indignant about seeing the actor playing Flotsam in The Little Mermaid on Broadway sitting outside the stage door in partial costume, smoking.

The wankfest is perfectly understandable, because the OP is all "ZOMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!111!!" and has of course set off the standard smoking-debate hobbyhorses.

However, not a single person in two pages of FW comments makes what I immediately keyed in on as the relevant point: Anyone caught smoking in costume should be summarily shot.

Sadly, that's neither legal nor feasible. But generally speaking, they'll WISH they had been when the wardrobe mistress gets through with them...

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mekkasimian
Jan. 25th, 2008 10:45 pm (UTC)
COSTUMED SMOKERS GET MEK HOT.

=M=
mrv3000
Jan. 25th, 2008 11:08 pm (UTC)
I don't think I ever would have thought of that, but that's gotta be a nightmare for a costumer.
wiliqueen
Jan. 25th, 2008 11:50 pm (UTC)
Well, and I wouldn't expect non-theatre people to know. I'm just surprised that in two pages of comments it didn't come up, with all the theatre people in fandom.
bktheirregular
Jan. 25th, 2008 11:10 pm (UTC)
Unclear on the concept, but is it the smoke permeating the costume that causes the problem?

(My objection to smoking is that the fellow who lights up is all too often turning the people around him into smokers as well, whether they would choose to be or not. Hopefully that's distinct from the ZOMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN attitude?)
cjmr
Jan. 25th, 2008 11:20 pm (UTC)
There's smoke odor and potentially ash stains and/or burn marks, if the smoker is not very meticulous.
wiliqueen
Jan. 25th, 2008 11:53 pm (UTC)
Yup. And it's best to make the rules hard and fast, and leave no room for the "unless you're very meticulous" thing.

The speech generally gets made as soon as actors and costumes come in contact with one another, so there's no confusion. If I'm in charge of said costumes, the phrase "on pain of death" is included verbatim. ;->
sventhelost
Jan. 25th, 2008 11:50 pm (UTC)
I have asthma. The whole second-hand smoke cancer dangers and all that don't bother me, 'cause I'm worried I won't make it that far because I've inhaled a lungful of smoke.

/sad sigh

Smoke is also bad for the fabric, 'cause it's like really tiny dust in there, wearing down the fibers of the fabric.
poohmusings
Jan. 25th, 2008 11:20 pm (UTC)
But generally speaking, they'll WISH they had been when the wardrobe mistress gets through with them...

Hee! That's the first thought that came to my mind. Kinda surprised no one's mentioned that at f_w, but also kinda not.
wiliqueen
Jan. 25th, 2008 11:53 pm (UTC)
It just surprises me because there are so many theatre people in fandom!
maiac
Jan. 25th, 2008 11:47 pm (UTC)
I think smokers generally cannot tell that the odor of smoke lingers long after they've extinguished the cigarette. I've startled many a co-worker by saying, "I didn't realize you were a smoker," when I haven't seen them smoking.

(What's really annoying is that our office elevators smell of stale smoke that wafts in from the lower levels of the parking garage. I think smoking there is supposed to be prohibited, but during the cold months the Powers That Be overlook the infraction.)

...In the days before statewide prohibitions on smoking in public places and workplaces, I tried unsuccessfully to get an employer to ban smoking in my vicinity to spare me the asthma attacks. But the day after a hard drive went kablooie because of all the smoke residue in it, he imposed an office-wide ban. Ah, the priorities of business owners.

Edited at 2008-01-25 11:49 pm (UTC)
wiliqueen
Jan. 25th, 2008 11:55 pm (UTC)
But the day after a hard drive went kablooie because of all the smoke residue in it, he imposed an office-wide ban. Ah, the priorities of business owners.

Oy. *eyeroll*

The Illinois smoking ban has been in effect for 25 days now, and the world has failed to end. This pleases me. :->
padawansguide
Jan. 26th, 2008 02:30 am (UTC)
I nearly had a cow when I saw pics of Kirsten Dunst smoking in one of her MA costumes!
wiliqueen
Jan. 26th, 2008 01:46 pm (UTC)
Strangely, that doesn't have the same impact for me. I think I'm too used to the wastefulness of the film industry. For all the increase in awareness of their value, Hollywood mostly still seems to think of costumes as disposable. Even to me, it's not quite the same as something that has to continue to stand up to eight two-plus-hour performances a week.
genevieve1352
Jan. 26th, 2008 10:58 pm (UTC)
Amen, sister!

(Illinois Shakespeare Festival wardrobe crew, '04 and '05)
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