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So, what's the customary time allotted for Enterprise spoilers to not be spoilers anymore? I'm still enough of a Trek baby that I had to watch the Mirrorverse two-parter. And while it hasn't changed my status as a non-watcher of the show, I do think I may require an "Empress Sato" icon. The linguist takes over the galaxy! *eg* Doesn't make up for years of character neglect by any means, but as brainiacfive said, it did make the kinda lackluster Part 2 of the episode worth it.

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thanatos_kalos
May. 2nd, 2005 01:35 pm (UTC)
*snerk* I wonder if linguistics goes hand in hand with nascent megalomania... ;P

(And I meant to watch that two-parter but forgot... oh well.)
wiliqueen
May. 2nd, 2005 01:54 pm (UTC)
I wonder if linguistics goes hand in hand with nascent megalomania... ;P

Possibly. Although I also suspect Empress Sato would eat "Absolute Power" Daniel for lunch.

(And I meant to watch that two-parter but forgot... oh well.)

They didn't get everything right, but it was fun, for all those exceedingly un-PC Mirrorverse reasons. T'Pol/Hoshi catfight with the obligatory bare midriffs, Hoshi as the frequently-lingerie-clad power behind those aiming for the throne, Phlox delighting in torture experiments, etc. Only Gary Graham wound up with the Evil Facial Hair, but Archer did have a shoe-polish dye job that made the crewcut even more unfortunate. And Scott's going to be picking scenery out of his teeth for years.
thanatos_kalos
May. 2nd, 2005 01:59 pm (UTC)
Possibly. Although I also suspect Empress Sato would eat "Absolute Power" Daniel for lunch.

hmm... ;)

They didn't get everything right, but it was fun, for all those exceedingly un-PC Mirrorverse reasons. T'Pol/Hoshi catfight with the obligatory bare midriffs, Hoshi as the frequently-lingerie-clad power behind those aiming for the throne, Phlox delighting in torture experiments, etc.

ah. the usual. ;)

Only Gary Graham wound up with the Evil Facial Hair, but Archer did have a shoe-polish dye job that made the crewcut even more unfortunate.

oy...

And Scott's going to be picking scenery out of his teeth for years.

*snerk* I'm sure I can get a tape of this... ;P
bktheirregular
May. 2nd, 2005 02:37 pm (UTC)
Scenery's high in fiber, dontcha know? Just ask David Boreanaz whenever he got to play Angelus and cut loose. *g*

I caught both parts on the DVR. If you can stand static, I can make a DVD...
wiliqueen
May. 2nd, 2005 02:58 pm (UTC)
Scenery's high in fiber, dontcha know? Just ask David Boreanaz

Or Shatner. Which is why it was so perfect to have Scott going so overboard with it here.

Hubby and I were just saying last week that some shows fail because they push it too hard, but Enterprise's problem is that they don't push it. Seeing what they could do when cutting loose in an alternate universe they're not afraid of breaking really underscored that for me.
bktheirregular
May. 2nd, 2005 05:38 pm (UTC)
Well, Enterprise ended up hamstrung by their own continuity, I suppose. Tough to get creative if you're always worrying that your creativity will frell an already-established future. Can be done - but it'd take skill and luck, of the catch-lightning-in-a-bottle variety.

Then again, Trek got hamstrung before, with Roddenberry's diktat that there was to be no more conflict within the Federation proper; tossing that may have been the smartest thing the DS9 show-runners ever did.
wiliqueen
May. 2nd, 2005 05:54 pm (UTC)
Tough to get creative if you're always worrying that your creativity will frell an already-established future.

The weird thing is that I expected the continuity straitjacket to be their main problem, and it really isn't. The "temporal cold war" gave them considerable latitude to fudge things, and they have made use of it. (In fact, I seem to recall some quote early on -- possibly from Berman? -- to the effect that they weren't goign to let continuity get in the way. I have no idea what was actually said; just remember various fans frothing at the mouth about it.) It just always felt to me like they weren't committing to their own ideas.

I know that's vague and extremely subjective, but since it's just an attempt to articulate why I personally didn't get into the show, I've never thought it through much further. *shrug*
lisayaeger
May. 2nd, 2005 03:00 pm (UTC)
It was really the only redeeming value of Pt. 2!
amilyn
May. 2nd, 2005 04:40 pm (UTC)
Okay. I must come see you all. You have WAY too much stuff on tape that I wanna see. I didn't know there was a Mirrorverse ep, and now I wanna see it.

Can I? Can I?

Also, when Tara's back from Family Care Survival Training, she's making a set of DW which we could all watch together...
brainiacfive
May. 2nd, 2005 05:02 pm (UTC)
Sounds good to me. Reminds me, I've been meaning to ask her if she's heard anything of a Neverwhere comic that supposedly coming out this summer.
amilyn
May. 2nd, 2005 05:05 pm (UTC)
Comment on one of her Whovian posts asking that. :-)
brainiacfive
May. 2nd, 2005 05:10 pm (UTC)
Oh, I've commented before, but I haven't seen a reply. Figured the direct approach might work better.
amilyn
May. 2nd, 2005 05:19 pm (UTC)
It occurs to me...does she know who you are here?
brainiacfive
May. 2nd, 2005 05:54 pm (UTC)
Probably not. I sometimes sign my posts, but not all the time.
wiliqueen
May. 2nd, 2005 05:38 pm (UTC)
You have WAY too much stuff on tape that I wanna see. I didn't know there was a Mirrorverse ep, and now I wanna see it.

Luckily, we did tape it. We haven't been taping Enterprise in general.
amilyn
May. 2nd, 2005 06:00 pm (UTC)
Gee...I wonder why...

I figured the odds were that you'd have taped the MirrorVerse one, though, so, yay!

...but we don't know how to land...
wiliqueen
May. 2nd, 2005 09:34 pm (UTC)
...but we don't know how to land...

This sad puppy only counts as getting off the RUNWAY if you take it as part of the franchise as a whole. :-P
krf13
May. 2nd, 2005 08:55 pm (UTC)
I noticed the difference in sounds - shows you how sad I am when it comes to Star Trek. Each Enterprise has a slightly different ambient background noise, as well as different noises for their equipment and warp drive, etc.

I don't think Enterprise ever recovered from following the absolutely dreadful Voyager. DS9 remains the best series of the bunch for me.
wiliqueen
May. 2nd, 2005 09:31 pm (UTC)
I can buy that the sounds on the Defiant would be slightly different than on the Enterprise of the same class. Every ship has her own personality. But Jack pointed out, and I agree, that the sets they created for unfamiliar areas of the ship didn't quite fit in with the classic design.

I do love that they borrowed some set elements from fans. :-D
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